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One Of Our Own Has a Ship In 'Float Out'

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Friday, June 4, 2010 8:06 AM

SOULOFSERENITY

The Man They Call Soul...


Okay, this is crazy. The top ship on page six was actually created by one of our own, Werzbowski. The link is to the physical model created by John Douglass ( www.artships.com). No clue how it made it's way into the comic, but it is the same ship. No question about it.

http://artships.com/2004/beowulf.php

Compare this pic to the artwork:

From the comic:

Even the little details are exactly the same.

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Friday, June 4, 2010 9:09 AM

WERZBOWSKI


Hotpoint & Artships Granite Gorge was also featured in the second story of the comic.

http://www.artships.com/2004/gorge.php

I can't do the pic link thing atm though.

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Friday, June 4, 2010 9:13 AM

SOULOFSERENITY

The Man They Call Soul...


Holy crap. You're right.



Edited to add a scan from the comic:



Methinks someone perused Artships' site for some "inspiration"...

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Friday, June 4, 2010 9:25 AM

WERZBOWSKI


Eureka! I do believe I have found the artist's inspirational site...

http://www.quantummechanix.com/Bellflower-Ships.html

The Rolling Thunder, The Granite Gorge, The Autumn Jade, and two of the ships featured in 'Other Ships' all make a visual appearance in Float Out.

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Friday, June 4, 2010 9:41 AM

SOULOFSERENITY

The Man They Call Soul...


Woah...that's crazy!!!! I mean, it's one thing to put something in the comic as a homage to the fans, but that level of copying without so much as a line of credit to the original creators...hmm...

There's even yet another ship under "other ships" used in the comic...it's in the picture with the dozen or so models...

Wow...and most of the ships in the hull of the Reaver ship are from that same site...including Bellflower...

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Friday, June 4, 2010 9:59 AM

HOTPOINT


Thanks for the heads-up about this 'Ski.

Familiar looking vessels indeed!



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Friday, June 4, 2010 10:01 AM

SOULOFSERENITY

The Man They Call Soul...


Hey Hotpoint, you know I have to do this...

NEED MORE FANFIC!!!!!



Still...crazy...

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Friday, June 4, 2010 10:20 AM

HOTPOINT


Quote:

Originally posted by SoulOfSerenity:
Hey Hotpoint, you know I have to do this...

NEED MORE FANFIC!!!!!





Hey I've written loads more Fanfic... just not for Firefly :-p

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Friday, June 4, 2010 10:22 AM

SOULOFSERENITY

The Man They Call Soul...


Yeah, yeah....



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Friday, June 4, 2010 10:26 AM

HOTPOINT


Has anybody got hold of Artships yet incidentally?

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Friday, June 4, 2010 10:29 AM

WERZBOWSKI


I have attempted through his website, and through here. No word yet.

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Friday, June 4, 2010 10:29 AM

SOULOFSERENITY

The Man They Call Soul...


Quote:

Originally posted by Hotpoint:
Has anybody got hold of Artships yet incidentally?



'Ski and I sent him emails earlier.

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Friday, June 4, 2010 11:05 AM

ANGELLEMARCS

Sometimes you just need to stop, breathe deep, and scream.


This is totally awesome honor, 'Ski. Wishing they would have giving you props for it, but just to see it there is definitely a freaking big deal. You, my friend, deserve being on cloud nine. :)

Angelle

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Friday, June 4, 2010 11:05 AM

BYTEMITE


Ouch. Copyrighted and everything.

He probably saw them on QmX and thought they'd be okay to use because QmX made them into official merchandise.

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Friday, June 4, 2010 11:21 AM

WERZBOWSKI


Actually... just got done replying to an email from Mr Patric Reynolds, the artist on Float Out... He did send in an acknowledgement of his inspirations to Dark Horse, but they failed to print it for some reason.

I told him that I for one was honored that Artships & I were able to inspire him, and thanked him for making the ships look so good.

"Trust me... I know what I'm doing."

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Friday, June 4, 2010 11:23 AM

ARTSHIPS


Just heard from Mullins and... Wow! Flattering to see other artists pickup on my stuff.

Bellflower -- Hey! New spaceship pics! -- Has permission to use the pictures. This comic... Could have asked. Oh! "official merchandise"? Maybe I can get copy of my very own?

I'd better start poking around. Thanks, guys.

(I'm suffering an email crisis - Lost all my filtering. If you've written me, I lost it. I'm sorry.)

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Friday, June 4, 2010 11:25 AM

HOTPOINT


Quote:

Originally posted by artships:
Just heard from Mullins and... Wow! Flattering to see other artists pickup on my stuff.

Bellflower -- Hey! New spaceship pics! -- Has permission to use the pictures. This comic... Could have asked. Oh! "official merchandise"? Maybe I can get copy of my very own?

I'd better start poking around. Thanks, guys.



Well we always knew your stuff was great!

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Friday, June 4, 2010 11:31 AM

ANGELLEMARCS

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Well, glad someone appreciated you all. :)

Angelle

"I've made a career out of listening to the voices in my head. I know it's a bit disturbing, but I like it. I'm a writer."

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Friday, June 4, 2010 11:35 AM

SOULOFSERENITY

The Man They Call Soul...


Patric Reynolds replied to my email as well, and rather quickly! He seemed very humble about the whole situation and wanted nothing more than to recognize those who inspired him.

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Friday, June 4, 2010 11:48 AM

SOULOFSERENITY

The Man They Call Soul...


From Patric Reynolds himself:

"Serenity: Float Out" simply could not have been possible without the inspiration and reference that I found at fireflyshipworks.com. I was more than fortunate to find a wellspring of ideas that were very thoughtfully designed by such dedicated artists who have created (and maintained) a completely engaging universe. I am glad that their ideas have gotten the visibility they deserve by being depitcted in a mainstream comic. They were too good not to be seen by so many readers and they only add to the rich Serenity vocabulary. The artist's imagination not only saved me a lot of headaches, but they have inspired me to keep thinking about how I as an artist can push my own creative boundaries. They have made the extraordinary very real and attainable, and I owe them a debt of gratitude. Thanks y'all."

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Mantichorus: "So is there a reason they call you 'Soul'?"
Soul (after a long pause): "Yeah. Because I have one."

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Friday, June 4, 2010 11:55 AM

WERZBOWSKI


Awesome.

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Friday, June 4, 2010 12:05 PM

HOTPOINT


As a Fanfic writer the urge to send an ironic Cease and Desist order is unbearable. :-p

Hee hee

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Friday, June 4, 2010 4:23 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Fear of litigation is motivational...

As is fear of getting fired and blacklisted.

First ship looks like photoshop of the photo with 180 horizontal flip with an art filter. Takes 30 seconds work to duplicate the "artwork". Or 15 minutes if you're me.


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Friday, June 4, 2010 6:48 PM

DMI

Expired, forgotten, spoiled rotten.


Never got around to fireflyshipworks.com and their corner of the verse. Good stuff and lovin' these Firefly comics.

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Saturday, June 5, 2010 11:59 AM

TREYBOR

Yes...I am that Sean Kennedy.


Doggone it.

I feel somewhat responsible. I created the CG copies of the ships for the Bellflower fan film.

That's how they ran across them at QMx's Bellflower launch site.

I surely hope they gave John some credit for creating the original model. We may be fans but we're not idiots.

Treybor: (tray-bOr)n - That dude who ceated the Serenity Modeling Tutorial http://www.foundation3d.com/index.php?categoryid=38&p13_sectionid=375

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Sunday, June 6, 2010 2:53 AM

WERZBOWSKI


I quite liked the CGI rendering you did, especially the "nose art". Though I must admit you didn't get the interior of the cargo bay quite the way I wrote it.

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Sunday, June 6, 2010 7:03 PM

QUANDOM


HOTPOINT has written the best fanfic for FF in my opinion - not to mention one of the largest. I am sorry he has never done more.

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Monday, June 7, 2010 10:18 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Glad to see the ships make it into the comic, but I hope DH makes it right by giving credit to the appropriate artists for their designs.

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:56 PM

MAGUS3D


Well... as the designer and builder of the Bellflower (hero model rebuilt by Gordon Robb), the Autumn Jade and all of those "other ships" it would have been nice to have been contacted before they published my I.P... I have no contract with Dark Horse or QMx that allows permission to republish my work. There is only an implied permission to use depictions of those ships in promotion of the "Bellflower" fan film on the QMx site... Certain liberties were taken with some of the Serenity Tourism Posters, but I don't mind that so much... But this is just plain wrong... Just because it's on the web doesn't make it public domain... are Dark Horse going to send me free copies of the comics? Are they going to credit me for my artwork/designs? Hmmm... I didn't do any of this for the money... I did it to get my name out there, and make a few contacts... way to screw me over, Dark Horse...

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Monday, June 28, 2010 11:51 PM

TILK


I find it dissapointing that so many people on the bellflower contributed so much time into these models, designs and concepts, that a group of individuals could use our works for commercial gain.

I have written to darkhorse stating they are in breach of bellflower copyright and that action will be taken.
I havent spent this much time on this film to see my ship and verse used in this manner.

These people should be ashamed.

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Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:08 AM

TILK


I am pleased to say that the Scott Allie from Dark horse comics will be printing an official appology to the Bellflower for the illegal use of its art in the next issue of Buffy.
They will also be making a donation to charity on behalf of Bellflower.
Scott will arrange for other appologies to be released in other net media.

All artists will be given credit for their work in upcoming releases of the comic.

Scott Allie and Darkhorse have been absolutely wonderful in regard to this matter, and I can only say thankyou to them for their respect and support.
Bless them

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Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:45 PM

ANONYMOUS1


Quote:

Scott Allie apologizes to crew behind the Serenity fan film "Bellflower". http://www.darkhorse.com/Blog/67/acknowledgment-serenity-fan-film-bell
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The Dark Horse editor acknowledges the unintentional influence of the fans' work on the comic Serenity: Float Out.


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Nathan Fillion's Castle ABC Season 3 Fall 2010 http://abc.go.com/shows/castle/naked-heat <-read chapter 1 of next book

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